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Karen Special's avatar

Jennifer, I too used to think that vaccines were beneficial, if spaced out and if the kid was monitored for adverse reactions. I did this with both of my sons, 26 and 30 years ago.

Boy was I wrong.

In the last 4 years, I have read every book I could find on vaccines. I now realize I have vaccine-injured children. The oldest had “unexplained” excema.and later developed juvenile rheumatoid arthritis. My second son developed Tourette’s and OCD. Neither of these problems came from either side of our families.

There are a number of books describing many of the problems that we are seeing today, including the autistic spectrum disorders.

Here are some of the books I’ve read: Turtles all the way Down, Dissolving illusions by Suzanne Humphreys, The Truth about Contagion by Dr. Thomas Cowan, and Sally Fallon Morell, The Virus and the Vaccine by Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher, The Autism Vaccine by Forrest McReady, Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies by Neil Z Miller, Good-Bye Germ Theory, by Dr. William P Trebing.

There are many more books too numerous to name that I have read.

The evidence is overwhelming.

We have been lied to.

And we have just been too blind to see it due to monied interests, pretending to be public health services.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Thanks for sharing your perspective, Karen. I have read several of those books as well (and reviewed "Turtles" for the Epoch Times.) I also think antibiotics can be beneficial and perhaps necessary in some rare instances (though plant-based medicine has powerful antibiotics that one can use instead). But I haven't used one in over 20 years, despite being prescribed them and told I would die if I did not take them, and would hope not to if I can avoid them. I'm still reading and learning and unable to conclude that all vaccines are harmful. Live viral vaccines can confer positive beneficial non-specific effects on the immune system, at least that is the conclusion of two researchers whose work I respect, Drs. Peter Aaby and Christine S. Benn (who I think blocked me from Twitter though I don't know why. As did Paul Offit, which is too bad as I've interviewed him in the past and respect his energy, willingness to research, and willingness to dialogue, except, apparently, no longer with me...). I think it's easier to see vaccines as all bad or all good. And I 100 percent agree with you that we have been lied to. But I also suspect it's not so black and white...

Karen Special's avatar

Yeah, I used to think that, too, Jennifer. Check out terrain theory in regards to illness. Dr. Cowan writes about that, as do some other docs.

I am not saying that ALL allopathic medicine is bad. Look at ivermectin. Look at Fendbendazole.

I AM saying there is no need whatsoever for pharmaceutical shots. Our immune systems, if left alone and supported by good nutrition, clean air and water, exercise and critical thinking 😏 is enough to support us into old age.

But oh, wait, seems that that is nearly impossible nowadays.

aj's avatar

With the exception of rabies, I can't really think of a disease we vax for that shouldn't instead be treated by supportive care

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

I cannot believe that you still think that vaccines can be good. Did you read what to they put in those vaccines. I posted it on you page.

Vaccine Excipient Summary

Excipients Included in U.S. Vaccines, by Vaccine

In addition to weakened or killed disease antigens (such as weakened, killed, or parts of viruses or bacteria), vaccines contain very small amounts of other ingredients – excipients.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Vaccine Excipient Table

Vaccine (Trade Name) Package

Insert Date Contains(a)

Adenovirus 10/2019 monosodium glutamate, sucrose, D-mannose, D-fructose, dextrose, human serum

albumin, potassium phosphate, plasdone C, anhydrous lactose, microcrystalline

cellulose, polacrilin potassium, magnesium stearate, cellulose acetate phthalate,

alcohol, acetone, castor oil, FD&C Yellow #6 aluminum lake dye

Anthrax (Biothrax) 11/2015 aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, benzethonium chloride, formaldehyde

BCG (Tice) 02/2009 glycerin, asparagine, citric acid, potassium phosphate, magnesium sulfate, iron

ammonium citrate, lactose

Cholera (Vaxchora) 06/2016 ascorbic acid, hydrolyzed casein, sodium chloride, sucrose, dried lactose, sodium

bicarbonate, sodium carbonate

Dengue (Dengvaxia) 06/2019 sodium chloride, essential amino acids (including L-phenylalanine), non-essential

amino acids, L-arginine hydrochloride, sucrose, D-trehalose dihydrate, D-sorbitol,

trometamol, urea

DT (Sanofi) 06/2018 aluminum phosphate, isotonic sodium chloride, formaldehyde

DTaP (Daptacel) 01/2021(b) aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, 2-phenoxyethanol

DTaP (Infanrix) 01/2021(b) formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, polysorbate 80 (Tween 80)

DTaP-IPV (Kinrix) 01/2021(b) formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, polysorbate 80 (Tween

80), neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B

DTaP-IPV (Quadracel) 02/2021 formaldehyde, aluminum phosphate, 2-phenoxyethanol, polysorbate 80,

glutaraldehyde, neomycin, polymyxin B sulfate, bovine serum albumin

DTaP-HepB-IPV (Pediarix) 01/2021(b) formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, sodium chloride,

polysorbate 80 (Tween 80), neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, yeast protein

DTaP-IPV/Hib (Pentacel) 12/2019 aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, sucrose, formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde,

bovine serum albumin, 2-phenoxyethanol, neomycin, polymyxin B sulfate

DTaP-IPV-Hib-HepB (Vaxelis) 10/2020 polysorbate 80, formaldehyde, glutaraldehyde, bovine serum albumin,

neomycin, streptomycin sulfate, polymyxin B sulfate, ammonium thiocyanate,

yeast protein, aluminum

Ebola Zaire (ERVEBO) 01/2021(b) Tromethamine, rice-derived recombinant human serum albumin, host cell DNA,

benzonase, rice protein

Hib (ActHIB) 05/2019 sodium chloride, formaldehyde, sucrose

Hib (Hiberix) 04/2018 formaldehyde, sodium chloride, lactose

Hib (PedvaxHIB) 01/2021(b) amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, sodium chloride

Hep A (Havrix) 01/2021(b) MRC-5 cellular proteins, formalin, aluminum hydroxide, amino acid supplement,

phosphate-buffered saline solution, polysorbate 20, neomycin sulfate,

aminoglycoside antibiotic

Hep A (Vaqta) 01/2021(b) amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, non-viral protein, DNA, bovine

albumin, formaldehyde, neomycin, sodium borate, sodium chloride, other

process chemical residuals

Hep B (Engerix-B) 01/2021(b) aluminum hydroxide, yeast protein, sodium chloride, disodium phosphate

dihydrate, sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate

Hep B (Recombivax) 12/2018 formaldehyde, potassium aluminum sulfate, amorphous aluminum

hydroxyphosphate sulfate, yeast protein

Hep B (Heplisav-B) 05/2020 yeast protein, yeast DNA, deoxycholate, phosphorothioate linked

oligodeoxynucleotide, sodium phosphate, dibasic dodecahydrate, sodium

chloride, monobasic dehydrate, polysorbate 80

Hep A/Hep B (Twinrix) 01/2021(b) MRC-5 cellular proteins, formalin, aluminum phosphate, aluminum hydroxide,

amino acids, sodium chloride, phosphate buffer, polysorbate 20, neomycin

sulfate, yeast protein

HPV (Gardasil 9) 08/2020 amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, sodium chloride,

L-histidine, polysorbate 80, sodium borate, yeast protein

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Vaccine (Trade Name) Package

Insert Date Contains(a)

Influenza (Afluria)

Quadrivalent(c)

03/2021 sodium chloride, monobasic sodium phosphate, dibasic sodium phosphate,

monobasic potassium phosphate, potassium chloride, calcium chloride, sodium

taurodeoxycholate, ovalbumin, sucrose, neomycin sulfate, polymyxin B, betapropiolactone, hydrocortisone, thimerosal (multi-dose vials)

Influenza (Fluad)

Quadrivalent(c)

03/2021 squalene, polysorbate 80, sorbitan trioleate, sodium citrate dihydrate, citric acid

monohydrate, neomycin, kanamycin, hydrocortisone, egg protein, formaldehyde

Influenza (Fluarix)

Quadrivalent(c)

2021 octoxynol-10 (TRITON X-100), α-tocopheryl hydrogen succinate, polysorbate

80 (Tween 80), hydrocortisone, gentamicin sulfate, ovalbumin, formaldehyde,

sodium deoxycholate, sodium phosphate-buffered isotonic sodium chloride

Influenza (Flublok)

Quadrivalent(c)

03/2021 sodium chloride, monobasic sodium phosphate, dibasic sodium phosphate,

polysorbate 20 (Tween 20), baculovirus and Spodoptera frugiperda cell proteins,

baculovirus and cellular DNA, Triton X-100

Influenza (Flucelvax)

Quadrivalent(c)

10/2021(b) Madin Darby Canine Kidney (MDCK) cell protein, phosphate buffered saline,

protein other than HA, MDCK cell DNA, polysorbate 80, cetyltrimethlyammonium

bromide, and β-propiolactone, thimerosal (multi-dose vials)

Influenza (Flulaval)

Quadrivalent(c)

2021 ovalbumin, formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate, α-tocopheryl hydrogen

succinate, polysorbate 80, phosphate-buffered saline solution

Influenza (Fluzone)

Quadrivalent(c)

2021 formaldehyde, egg protein, octylphenol ethoxylate (Triton X-100), sodium

phosphate-buffered isotonic sodium chloride solution, thimerosal (multi-dose

vials)

Influenza (Fluzone)

High Dose(c)

07/2021 egg protein, octylphenol ethoxylate (Triton X-100), sodium phosphate-buffered

isotonic sodium chloride solution, formaldehyde

Influenza (FluMist)

Quadrivalent(c)

08/2021 monosodium glutamate, hydrolyzed porcine gelatin, arginine, sucrose, dibasic

potassium phosphate, monobasic potassium phosphate, ovalbumin, gentamicin

sulfate, ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA)

IPV (Ipol) 01/2021(b) calf bovine serum albumin, 2-phenoxyethanol, formaldehyde, neomycin,

streptomycin, polymyxin B, M-199 medium

Japanese Encephalitis (Ixiaro) 09/2018 aluminum hydroxide, protamine sulfate, formaldehyde, bovine serum albumin,

host cell DNA, sodium metabisulphite, host cell protein

MenACWY (Menactra) 04/2018 sodium phosphate buffered isotonic sodium chloride solution, formaldehyde,

diphtheria toxoid protein carrier

MenACWY (MenQuadfi) 01/2021(b) sodium chloride, sodium acetate, formaldehyde

MenACWY (Menveo) 07/2020 formaldehyde, CRM protein 197

MenB (Bexsero) 01/2021(b) aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, histidine, sucrose, kanamycin

MenB (Trumenba) 2018 polysorbate 80, aluminum phosphate, histidine buffered saline

MMR (MMR-II) 12/2020 sorbitol, sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, recombinant human albumin, neomycin,

fetal bovine serum, WI-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts

MMRV (ProQuad)

(Frozen: Recombinant

Albumin)

01/2021(b) MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein, sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, sodium

chloride, sorbitol, monosodium L-glutamate, sodium phosphate dibasic,

recombinant human albumin, sodium bicarbonate, potassium phosphate

monobasic, potassium chloride, potassium phosphate dibasic, neomycin, bovine

calf serum, other buffer and media ingredients

PCV13 (Prevnar 13) 08/2017 CRM carrier protein, polysorbate 80, succinate buffer, aluminum phosphate 197

PPSV-23 (Pneumovax) 09/2020 isotonic saline solution, phenol

Rabies (Imovax) 10/2019 human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red, beta-propiolactone

Rabies (RabAvert) 2018 chicken protein, polygeline (processed bovine gelatin), human serum albumin,

potassium glutamate, sodium EDTA, ovalbumin, neomycin, chlortetracycline,

amphotericin B

Rotavirus (RotaTeq) 01/2021(b) sucrose, sodium citrate, sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate, sodium

hydroxide, polysorbate 80, cell culture media, fetal bovine serum

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Vaccine (Trade Name) Package

Insert Date Contains(a)

Rotavirus (Rotarix) 01/2021(b) dextran, Dulbecco’s Modified Eagle Medium (sodium chloride, potassium

chloride, magnesium sulfate, ferric (III) nitrate, sodium phosphate, sodium

pyruvate, D-glucose, concentrated vitamin solution, L-cystine, L-tyrosine,

amino acids, L-glutamine, calcium chloride, sodium hydrogenocarbonate, and

phenol red), sorbitol, sucrose, calcium carbonate, sterile water, xanthan

[Porcine circovirus type 1 (PCV1) is present in Rotarix. PCV-1 is not known to

cause disease in humans.]

Smallpox

(Vaccinia) (ACAM2000)

03/2018 HEPES, 2% human serum albumin, 0.5 - 0.7% sodium chloride USP, 5% Mannitol

USP, neomycin, polymyxin B, 50% Glycerin USP, 0.25% phenol USP

Td (Tenivac) 11/2019 aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, sodium chloride

Td (TDVAX) 09/2018 aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, thimerosal

Tdap (Adacel) 12/2020 aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, 2-phenoxyethanol, glutaraldehyde

Tdap (Boostrix) 09/2020 formaldehyde, aluminum hydroxide, sodium chloride, polysorbate 80

Typhoid (Typhim Vi) 03/2020 formaldehyde, phenol, polydimethylsiloxane, disodium phosphate, monosodium

phosphate, sodium chloride

Typhoid (Vivotif Ty21a) 9/2013 sucrose, ascorbic acid, amino acids, lactose, magnesium stearate, gelatin

Varicella (Varivax) Frozen 01/2021(b) sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, sodium chloride, monosodium L-glutamate, sodium

phosphate dibasic, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, MRC-5

human diploid cells including DNA & protein, sodium phosphate monobasic,

EDTA, neomycin, fetal bovine serum

Yellow Fever (YF-Vax) 2/2019 sorbitol, gelatin, sodium chloride

Zoster (Shingles) (Shingrix) 01/2021(b) sucrose, sodium chloride, dioleoyl phosphatidylcholine (DOPC), 3-O-desacl4’monophosphoryl lipid A (MPL), QS-21 (a saponin purified from plant extract

Quillaja saponaria Molina), potassium dihydrogen phosphate, cholesterol,

sodium dihydrogen phosphate dihydrate, disodium phosphate anhydrous,

dipotassium phosphate, polysorbate 80, host cell protein and DNA

DeeDee's avatar

Omg everyone is a

Scientist now

Karen Kenworthy's avatar

I would love to use plant-based antibiotics instead! I’ll Google that, but if you can give me a few ideas of which are the best ones, I’d appreciate it!

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Goldenseal is an amazingly effective antibiotic, Karen, as is oregano oil and raw garlic.

Karen Kenworthy's avatar

Oh thank you, this is so timely! Our daughter has an ear infection that penicillin hasn’t helped.

aj's avatar

Ivermectin is based upon a natural life form found on a Japanese golf course.

coords1306's avatar

same deal for me. I've done turtles and dissolving illusions. and the autism vaccine. I almost didn't read the autism vaccine because of the title but now feel people must read it if only for the history of the various components of the diptheria shot. I may give Cowan's book a read. RFK Jr's book was intense but at the time I only was ready to believe half of what it was saying. I think Exley's book on aluminum is worth at least a cursory read.

Karen Special's avatar

Yes. The past 4 years have been unnervingly eye-opening. I just wish so many others would wake up to the fraud we have all been experiencing

DeeDee's avatar

Maybe you are

Reading the wrong books….

Karen Special's avatar

Why would you think that I am reading “the wrong books?”

DeeDee's avatar

Crazy ideas can always find a book to match.

Karen Special's avatar

So exactly what is “crazy” about saying so-called “vaccines” are dangerous and do not work?

Have you any scientific proof that empirically proves otherwise?

DeeDee's avatar

Decades and decades and decades and decades of research and science. But it’s not enough for the antis of life. Anti everything. The people Who think they know more. Protecting our children just isn’t enough anymore. Giddy up. It’s a hopeless cause

Karen Special's avatar

Dee Dee, I have been reading about science for the past 34+ years as well. I have found that allopathic medicine leaves much to be desired. I would hope that we live by the axiom, “First do no harm.” In fact, great harm has been done.

I also think lived experience and what we ourselves witness is all a part of the scientific method.

For more proof that the current vaccine doesn’t work, check out Ed Dowd’s statistical work on vaccine deaths and injuries since 2021.

Oh and BTW, I WANT to be proven wrong. I would LIKE to eat crow if I am incorrect.

But I have gone to far too many funerals in the last 3 years to discount that lived experience.

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

After a professional career of being a vaxxer, (Father forgive me), I am well on the way to becoming an anti vaxxer.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Dr. Kimber, thank you for sharing this with us. Could you tell us more? (Or if you'd rather, you could email me privately, off the record.) What has propelled you in that direction? What prevented you from being open to vaccine safety concerns before now?

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Jennifer, It has been more than a day or two, but here you go:

I have worked on a more detailed response to your query, and will be happy to give the stack or you the more detailed version, but it got too long and idiosyncratic, so here is: The shore version of why my views changed from generally pro-vaccine to generally anti-vaxxer is this:

My views changed on the basis of revelations and recollections that came to light in the midst of the COVID plandemic and particularly as the ill effects of the jab became more and more apparent. My continuing medical education and general education through the FLCCC and the VSRF including 2 FLCCC conferences 6 months apart in 2022 not only awakened me to the dangers of the mRNA shots, but to the under appreciated short and long term adverse effects of the routine childhood vaccines (likely including SIDS, Autism, ADHD, OCD, Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes, auto immune disorders.

I acted upon my views relative to COVID bioweapons countermeasures and for my trouble, I was fired, shortly thereafter. I remain part time clinically active in our homeless and uninsured clinic and on international short term missions trips, while I contemplate whether to return to wartime practice in some alternative setting or call it a career.

You can message me through Substack if you want more.

Happy Easter, if that applies.

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Edit: not wartime’ but full time, though, wartime fits as well, lol. Ah, spell check, ya gotta love it.

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Give me a day or 2, even though I’m retired, I have a few things that I need to get done first.

AlsoMe's avatar

I have always been a very science minded person. Once upon a time, I was going to go into astrobiology. Anyway.... I vaccinated as per the schedule my first two children. I used to think that anyone who didn't vaccinate their kids were "Stupid and selfish". Then for giggles, one day, I decided to humour the 'stupid antivaxxers' and read some of the tripe they posted. I was shocked. Shocked at how wrong I was. Shocked at how much vaccines lacked in actual independent research. Shocked at how much I'd been lied to.

And eventually shocked to realise that I'd been vaccine injured as a child. My health is wrecked and always will be. I have autoimmune issues, detoxing issues, inflammation issues.... plus much more. It started with HepB when I was only a small child. Then MMR. Then dTap as a teen. I didn't have remotely anywhere near the number of vaccines kids have now. All it took was one vaccine to wreck my immune system, the other two were just the cherry on the autoimmunity and inflammation cake.

I spent years reading academic papers, research, books, anything I could get my hands on. I realised the current vaccine technology cannot and will not ever afford anyone safe and effective immunity simply because it does not trigger the immune system in the same way natural disease does. You cannot inject immunity - it bypasses essential immune function and thus cannot ever confer equivalent immunity. It is all of the risk with so little benefit (if any) as to be almost statistical noise.

It's far better or far more effective to understand how the immune system works (in so far as our current understanding), learn effective treatments (e.g. Vitamin A for 'spotty' diseases like Varicella and Measles) and get natural immunity.

Maybe one day we will understand the immune system enough to develop a vaccine that confers the same level of immunity as natural. Or perhaps even better. But none of the current ones on the market do that and it doesn't look like there will be any time soon sadly, especially when there's so much money to be made from inferior products that create lasting health problems and an ongoing source of revenue.

Bryan Dair's avatar

I think this message is beginning to resonate with a bigger percentage of the population.

But, I have come to believe that there is not a single vaccine that is beneficial for any human,

or animal. We have a lot of work to do to convince the general population that it is allopathic medicine that is a sham, not the 'alternative' medicine that humans have practiced for thousands of years.

Stephen Verchinski's avatar

The Covid-19 gene therapy shots were the worst. From.a study editorial in Radiology Journal on post shot myocardial impacts.

"Notably, the authors’ interrogation of their results held up to all these secondary ways of looking at their data. The authors were careful to conclude that in a subset of patients undergoing PET/CT and with low glucose levels and fasting, myocardial activity was greater in patients who received an mRNA vaccine than in those who did not.

Greater myocardial activity after administration of an mRNA vaccine was present regardless of sex, age, or type of mRNA vaccine. " Greater myocardial activity is a euphemism for the shots impacting your heart vs. those that never took the shots. Normally that type of science results would put a complete pause on shot administration...except if you are a psychopathic sociopath and a member of the depop eugenics club.

DeeDee's avatar

The majority of the population aren’t conspiracy theorists. You all do you. Leave the rest of us to science

Bryan Dair's avatar

Which science? The Big Pharma Science, or the 'alternative medicine' science?

DeeDee's avatar

Any science

That’s not right wing rhetoric false facts.

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

I am an anti-vaxxer. All vaccines are poisonous. All. Say no to vaccine.

SACRIFICIAL VIRGINS

¨How young girls are being seriously damaged by the vaccine with the highest reported adverse reactions of any existing vaccine.¨ https://www.sacrificialvirgins.org/

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Thank you for sharing your perspective. And for being loud and proud about it.

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Thank you Jennifer. We have to stop this barberic practice. Mothers have to wake up and stop bringing their babies for blood sacrifices, to feed the beast.

Molly's avatar

Yes. They are all poisonous.

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Those of us of a certain age survived measles as toddlers or children just fine (can have a high mortality/ morbidity rate if one is vitamin A deficient, but essentially no one in this country is). The press are just paid shills.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Not sure if you had a chance to read my recent post about the measles. Posting it here in case it is of interest: https://jennifermargulis.substack.com/p/measles-oh-my

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Jennifer, I just read that post and the comments; both very educational— still learning after all these years!

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

We all are! And since science is a process of questioning, may we all keep learning, changing, refining, and rethinking our ideas...

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Indeed, I get new (and/or new to me) information all the time from reading these SubStacks.

On a different vein, I wandered into 'Your Local Epidemiologist' subStack and read part of if her (?) posts and the replies, the one was a critique of the science behind the objection to loosening the restrictions on the prescription of mifepristone(with the absurd statement that it is safer than Tylenol --both plagiarizing and misappropriating Paul Marik's line, and lying(Mifepristone has a Black Box warning on it's prescribing info, Tylenol does not!!).--I have prescribed or administered or recommended Tylenol, ivermectin, misoprostol--the other half of the abortion pills(but not mifepristone--didn't do, don't do, wouldn't do, and won't ever do abortions) and Paul Marik is right, this lady is not.

It is interesting in her ranting posts against the concept of TurboCancer, and other COVID misinformation spreader's 'myths' there are a number of cheerleading comments in her comment section. When I went to post a. minority report, I noted that comments were closed to all but paying subscribers--a good way to censor without saying you are censoring your comment section. I have observed that none of us 'misinformation spreaders', apologies to Steve Kirsch, have closed comment sections, hmmmm.

To quote Jeff Childers (Coffee and COVID):

So.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Thanks for all of this, Dr. Kimber. Because of eye strain (I had an enucleation in July) I can't spend as much time reading on-line as I'd like. I have trouble taking anyone who isn't willing to use their actual name all that seriously. A lot of us get subjected to a huge amount of vilification, ridicule, and the like. But we are real people, not hiding behind a nice-sounding moniker. The one part of your comment I'd gently ask you to reconsider is about acetaminophen. Tylenol actually has a highly problematic safety profile, something that Dr. William Parker, Ph.D., brought to my attention years ago. I still refer to a study he did in 2017, with a team from Harvard and Duke. Not sure if you'll have time to read it but in case you want to look at the abstract: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5536672/. It's also not a good drug to take if you have COVID: https://jennifermargulis.net/covid-19-and-tylenol-is-acetaminophen-safe/

Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I am sorry to hear that you lost your eye. Is there some way to make reading from screens more like reading from the printed page? Or is that problematic too?

The point of my post is to thank you for the Tylenol toxicity references. I was well aware of liver toxicity in excessive doses, as that was just being recognized and protocols for acetylcysteine treatment for it were the latest thing when I was in training & we had fun looking them up in the original papers. However, the subtleties of the oxidative stress were lost on us sleep deprived residents (back when residents were allowed/required to be sleep deprived, but that is another topic).

I will just have to use a less toxic OTC comparator when I say that IVM safer than…

Do you have any suggestions? Water, perhaps? Acute hyponatremia is a pretty devastating thing.

Greg Hill's avatar

An excellent video with transcript by Laura Hayes posted on the Age of Autism website many years ago played a huge role in waking me up to the problems with vaccines: https://www.ageofautism.com/2018/11/why-is-this-legal-presentation-on-vaccines-by-laura-hayes.html

Based on everything I fortunately learned long before anyone ever heard of "COVID," I would definitely call myself a "true anti-vaxxer." I never considered for one microsecond taking a single dose of the sars-cov-2 shots. Having learned how to properly take care of my health I am now 74 years old, have no chronic diseases, am healthier than most 50 year olds, and never take so much as a baby aspirin. A few months ago when I came down with a bout of what might have been the flu, a cold or even COVID I just stayed home for a week so as not to spread it to others, got plenty of rest, continued eating a healthy diet, and the symptoms completely disappeared over the course of nine days. When they role out whatever kind of bio-weapon shot they create for "disease X," warp-speeded or not, I'll refuse that just as adamantly.

Molly's avatar

For anyone considering taking or giving, any vaccine, ever, please read this transcript, and/or watch the video recording of it in the link below. Thank you so much, Greg.

Greg Hill's avatar

Oops, I just discovered that ScrewYouTube has finally gotten around to censoring the video. "This video has been removed for violating YouTube's Community Guidelines." Very likely there's a copy of it somewhere else on the internet, but I haven't found it yet. It doesn't seem to be anywhere on BitChute or Rumble. If you find it someplace else please let me know. Fortunately the transcript of it is still available at the ageofautism.com link that I provided.

Molly's avatar

This video is so amazing. Everyone who would ever consider getting even a single vaccine should watch this first. Thank you so much for sharing it.

Laura Hayes's avatar

Thank you, Molly :)

Here is one more presentation of mine, from 2016, you might find of interest. It is different than, and complementary to, the one you watched from 2018.

https://www.ageofautism.com/2016/12/vaccines-what-is-there-to-be-pro-about-laura-hayes-to-weston-a-price-foundation-conference.html

Laura Hayes

https://www.ageofautism.com/exclusives.html

Molly's avatar

Can't wait to watch it. You are amazing and so powerful! So very sorry about your son :(

Laura Hayes's avatar

Thank you, Greg, for keeping the critically important information in my presentation in circulation! Here is a newly-created link for it on Rumble, thanks to you alerting me that YT had removed it, and to Joshua Coleman for helping with the new link.

https://rumble.com/v4lotxx-laura-hayes-why-is-this-legal.html

I am hoping the new video link will be embedded on the Age of Autism link for my presentation in the next day or two, also.

Laura Hayes

https://www.ageofautism.com/exclusives.html

DeeDee's avatar

And you wonder why they sensor disinformation…

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Formulaire a faire signer (Vaccines)

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Lisa Marks-Smith's avatar

Be careful asking a doctor to sign this form. While it might make you laugh, they will never sign and it could hurt your chance for a religious exemption.

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Lisa Marks-Smith - My point here is DO NOT VACCINATE YOUR CHILDREN. EVEN IF THEY SIGN! Please wake up!

Lisa Marks-Smith's avatar

My point is even presenting this form to a doctor could prevent you from getting a religious exemption because it proves you would be willing to vaccinate if the doctor signs. This form might make you laugh but hurts your case long term. Have you written a book on vaccine injuries, given talks on vaccine injuries, done radio shows, tv interviews? I do all that to warn people. Dont give bad advice.

Lisa Marks-Smith's avatar

It’s a little late to tell me to wake up. Search my name with flu shot. I have been speaking out for 20 years

Mario A Leblanc's avatar

Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety

I (Physician's name, degree)_________________________, _____ am a physician licensed to

practice medicine in the State/Province of ________________, in the country of

_________________. My State/Province license number is _______________ , and (if the USA)

my DEA number is _______________. My medical specialty is ________________________

I have a thorough understanding of the risks and benefits of all the medications that I prescribe for

or administer to my patients. In the case of (Patient's name) ___________________________ , age

_________ , whom I have examined, I find that certain risk factors exist that justify the

recommended vaccinations. The following is a list of said risk factors and the vaccinations that will

protect against them:

Risk Factor ____________________________________________

Vaccination ___________________________________________

Risk Factor ____________________________________________

Vaccination ___________________________________________

Risk Factor ____________________________________________

Vaccination ___________________________________________

Risk Factor ____________________________________________

Vaccination ___________________________________________

Risk Factor ____________________________________________

Vaccination ___________________________________________

Risk Factor ____________________________________________

Vaccination ___________________________________________

I am aware that vaccines typically contain many of the following fillers:

* aluminum hydroxide

* aluminum phosphate

* ammonium sulfate

* amphotericin B

* animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,

* dog kidney, monkey kidney,

* chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg

* calf (bovine) serum

* betapropiolactone

* fetal bovine serum

* formaldehyde

* formalin

* gelatin

* glycerol

* human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

* hydrolized gelatin

* mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate(r))

* monosodium glutamate (MSG)

* neomycin

* neomycin sulfate

* phenol red indicator

* phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)

* potassium diphosphate

* potassium monophosphate

* polymyxin B

* polysorbate 20

* polysorbate 80

* porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein

* residual MRC5 proteins

* sorbitol

* tri(n)butylphosphate,

* VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells, and

* washed sheep red blood

and, hereby, warrant that these ingredients are safe for injection into the body of my patient. I have

researched reports to the contrary, such as reports that mercury thimerosol causes severe

neurological and immunological damage, and find that they are not credible.

I am aware that some vaccines have been found to have been contaminated with Simian Virus 40

(SV 40) and that SV 40 is causally linked by some researchers to non-Hodgkin's lymphoma and

mesotheliomas in humans as well as in experimental animals. I hereby warrant that the vaccines I

employ in my practice do not contain SV 40 or any other live viruses. (Alternately, I hereby warrant

that said SV-40 virus or other viruses pose no substantive risk to my patient.)

I hereby warrant that the vaccines I am recommending for the care of (Patient's name)

_______________ _______________________ do not contain any tissue from aborted human

babies (also known as "fetuses").

In order to protect my patient's well being, I have taken the following steps to guarantee that the

vaccines I will use will contain no damaging contaminants.

STEPS TAKEN: ______________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

____________________________________________________________________

I have personally investigated the reports made to the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting

System) and state that it is my professional opinion that the vaccines I am recommending are safe

for administration to a child under the age of 5 years.

The bases for my opinion are itemized on Exhibit A, attached hereto, -- "Physician's Bases for

Professional Opinion of Vaccine Safety." (Please itemize each recommended vaccine separately

along with the bases for arriving at the conclusion that the vaccine is safe for administration to a

child under the age of 5 years.)

The professional journal articles I have relied upon in the issuance of this Physician's Warranty of

Vaccine Safety are itemized on Exhibit B , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles in Support of

Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety."

The professional journal articles that I have read which contain opinions adverse to my opinion are

itemized on Exhibit C , attached hereto, -- "Scientific Articles Contrary to Physician's Opinion of

Vaccine Safety"

The reasons for my determining that the articles in Exhibit C were invalid are delineated in

Attachment D , attached hereto, -- "Physician's Reasons for Determining the Invalidity of Adverse

Scientific Opinions."

Hepatitis B

I understand that 60 percent of patients who are vaccinated for Hepatitis B will lose detectable

antibodies to Hepatitis B within 12 years. I understand that in 1996 only 54 cases of Hepatitis B

were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 year age group. I understand that in the VAERS, there were

1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from Hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 year age group,

with 47 deaths reported.

I understand that 50 percent of patients who contract Hepatitis B develop no symptoms after

exposure. I understand that 30 percent will develop only flu-like symptoms and will have lifetime

immunity. I understand that 20 percent will develop the symptoms of the disease, but that 95

percent will fully recover and have lifetime immunity.

I understand that 5 percent of the patients who are exposed to Hepatitis B will become chronic

carriers of the disease. I understand that 75 percent of the chronic carriers will live with an

asymptomatic infection and that only 25 percent of the chronic carriers will develop chronic liver

disease or liver cancer, 10-30 years after the acute infection. The following scientific studies have

been performed to demonstrate the safety of the Hepatitis B vaccine in children under the age of 5

years.

_______________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________________

In addition to the recommended vaccinations as protections against the above cited risk factors, I

have recommended other non-vaccine measures to protect the health of my patient and have

enumerated said non-vaccine measures on Exhibit D , attached hereto, "Non-vaccine Measures to

Protect Against Risk Factors" I am issuing this Physician's Warranty of Vaccine Safety in my

professional capacity as the attending physician to (Patient's name) _________________________.

Regardless of the legal entity under which I normally practice medicine, I am issuing this statement

in both my business and individual capacities and hereby waive any statutory, Common Law,

Constitutional, UCC, international treaty, and any other legal immunities from liability lawsuits in

the instant case. I issue this document of my own free will after consultation with competent legal

counsel whose name is _________________________, an attorney admitted to the Bar in the

State/Province of __________________.

__________________________________ (Name of Attending Physician)

__________________________________ L.S. (Signature of Attending Physician)

Signed on this _______ day of ______________ A.D. ________

Witness: _______________________________ Date: _____________________

Notary Public: ___________________________Date: ______________________

Car Trucks's avatar

You know what's bizarre? You spend any amount of time on mothering forums and you frequently see threads about how doctors failed families over and over and over again. Merely glance at any generic women's forum and you see an overwhelming number of women failed by the medical industry that prescribes birth control at the first sign of a woman who won't shut up about a symptom.

And in the same breath as these women share their disdain for doctors and their analysis for how little doctors care about their families' health, they say "except for vaccines, obviously vaccines are safe and we're all vaccinated and please give us more vaccines." It's disheartening. We all know that doctors never talk to you about staying healthy by avoiding plastics, eating healthy, etc, but suddenly they know vaccines will keep us healthy?

I don't know if I'm an anti vaccine or not. I just know I don't trust doctors.

follow the silenced's avatar

Calling people anti-vaccine is just as strange as calling them non-smokers. As if vaccinating is normal and not vaccinating is abnormal. Is this supposed to convey that we are all born with deficiencies and are not viable and complete without vaccination? Pharmaceutical updates for completeness and the way out of deficiency? What a madness.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Thank you for this. So true: "Calling people anti-vaccine is just as strange as calling them non-smokers."

aj's avatar

The last couple of measles outbreaks in the US, and probably the current one, were of measles strains we don't vaccinate for, because they are not native here, and these foreign strains are brought in by foreigners or citizens who visited overseas.

Michael Edwards's avatar

Shhhh... don’t let the cat out of the bag... you might cost them some money!!! Oh and you sound like you hate immigrants too!!! 😜

aj's avatar

Pointing out one tiny truth about the immune status of illegal aliens is not hate.

Michael Edwards's avatar

I know you weren’t, it was sarcasm, It was a joke!

DeeDee's avatar

Yeah the right wing is currently blaming migrants when it’s USA anti vaxxers that’s the problem.

aj's avatar

You do not understand vaccines, but are criticizing those that do or are skeptical in the face of official lies.

DeeDee's avatar

Yeah I do understand them. Seems your knowledge is limited.

aj's avatar

what part of the domestic outbreaks being foreign sourced pathogens irks you?

DeeDee's avatar

Of course the right wing blames migrants. Who else would they blame?

Karen Special's avatar

aj- “Dee” is unfortunately a troll. 🧌

KTonCapeCod's avatar

My dog nearly died of a vaccine. This was after having slight issues with earlier vaccines. Thank God he lived 19 years and 4 months through the pandemic. He taught me many lessons. Don't vaccinate, eat good food, walk everyday, take a nap and you'll live a long life. None for him (after he nearly died), none for me.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Thanks for weighing in. I find it interesting that veterinarians will talk openly about over-vaccination among dogs and cats and the health problems this can lead to, but pediatricians kick parents out who want to delay or forego some vaccines.

Gryffindor's avatar

"The true anti-vaxxer, I suppose, believes that all vaccines are bad for all people at all times."

Hmmm. Interesting.

Especially since vaccines are the false religion of many people, I might get on board with this.

L Whit's avatar

Great article. I think some of the people are waking up and asking pertinent questions. Thank you Jennifer. An Ex-vaxer (since childhood) & Anti-vaxer

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

From Dr. Richard Moskowitz, posted with his permission: "The measles outbreaks of 2015-19, which were similarly blamed on the anti-vaxxers, were also quite modest, served mainly to embarrass the CDC for having prematurely declared the disease eliminated from the US, and were therefore attributed to foreigners or travelers bringing it from overseas. The only thing that was genuinely frightening about them, and very likely will be about this latest one as well, is that genetic analysis identified the culprit to be the vaccine virus rather than the wild type, which meant not only that the vaccinated folks were responsible for spreading it, but that the disease itself had mutated, a truly ominous sign for the future that received almost no attention to speak of."

Mary Fisher's avatar

Yes to all you said, BUT the problem is how can we trust the vaccine makers? They have proven themselves to be quite willing to destroy lives. There are evidences that there is not quality control (or cleanliness!) in their manufacturing processes. And they have just admitted that even the death vaccine they have just given to billions, wasn’t the same as the vaccine they “tested” and presented. If a person lies to me, I stop trusting them.

Jennifer Margulis's avatar

Yes, Mary. You make many points here worthy of close consideration...