Offit may be a "very nice" person to you, and he may even have some lovely things to say about the importance of letting a child experience a fever without suppressing it...and he may even have admitted that the Covid boosters should not be used because they are not effective...BUT (!) as soon as he realized that Big Media was ignoring him once he began to no longer support the Big Pharma narrative on the vaccine, Offit then changed his public opinions that began claiming that the Covid vaccines "prevented" millions of deaths (BULL-SHIT...or worse, it is more accurate to identify Offit's position as "elephant shit"...which is much bigger than bull-shit!).
This is true too. But I don't think Offit is a devil. Granted, I could be completely wrong and I'm basing my rather stubborn opinion about him on one long interview plus some very nice things the photographer said about him (when she brought her original organic human to the photoshoot) and I know he's reactive and has said journalists who cover vaccine issues from both sides belong in "journalism jail." But. But. But. I think he truly cares about the health of babies and small children, as do most pediatricians. I also think he's wrong and should not be vilifying anti-vaxxers. So many people on the other side believe I am a baby killer. One conversation with me would, I hope, convince them otherwise...
Offit, like all the vaxxer physicians won’t debate the evidence, and won’t respond to email challenges per me (who is a nobody’) and Steve Kirsch, who though a non-physician brings a big pot of money to the debate.
IIRC, he is a Fauci dependent, i.e., got his academic start on the basis of Fauci controlled grants, so a tool of the devil.
Still can be a person who loves their children and wife and doesn’t beat them & pays their bills, etc.
My view is that the parameters of your framing of this are too limited not only considering what has happened in the last 4 years, but also considering realities like the billion dollar peer review process, that health care has been hijacked weaponized,and inverted to achieve exactly the opposite of it's supposed intent, and if that is ignored in context, can one possibly come to any viable 'nuanced' overview?
If you are reading the overt signage Jennifer, according to the script writers of our collective futures, apparently those 'enlightened' beings that truly care about the 'greater good' of the future and it's children - the communitarians - , the world as we know it must be depopulated. We are the sacrifice they are prepared to make. The fact that they are using / have used aluminium and mercury 'adjuvants' / ingredients that are known to be a let's call it a neutralization method for those wishing to induce submissive and order following trans humans that when the bell tolls like the Eloi from H.G. Wells book - The Time Machine, those that have handed over there agency to the experts and authorities will be dutifully lining up, making the depopulation agenda easier on the military Industrial perception management complex.
If you would consider other voices like Dr Ayoub, Dr Mike Yeadon, Sasha Latypova, Katherine Watt, or even listen to those that have been speaking of the urgency of depopulation- according to those happy to commit democidal murder / depopulation.
Their is nothing that cannot be found as the cat's out of the bag - that the same 'for your safety' moniker the Nazis used, is being used in exactly the same context, therefore ensuring It is too hard to trust people who cannot see that or refuse to, or see it and are complicit players assisting in the stage show being rammed down our throats as reality.
I realise the intent of the divide and conquer, the hegalian dialectic polarization method, and that those that have been a part of forcing their will on others have never been the good guys in history.
Happy to send you examples of the countless credible voices seeing the depopulation agenda for what it is.
I'm going to email this to you as well, as I am happy to engage in any dialogue on this topic. The messaging is prolific in movies, TV, from groomed groomers specifically for the monetarily wealthy and influential e.g - Noah Yuval Horari - his job being to steer the cashed up adepts that are just as susceptible to social engineers as those with far lesser means.
I tried using Offit's books as a tether to the mainstream position and he failed miserably. I had to tap out of the false prophets of autism book of his. He was chiding the scientist who stood tall on trying to get thimerosol out of vaccines because of the 'panic' this would cause. He doesn't explicitly say it but is implied argument is Amerians are too litigious for informed consent...his goto example...lawsuits over silicon breast implants. Thats when had to tap out on listening to him about anything. Later I was reading Rachel Carson and sure enough stumbled upon a smear piece on her concerns over DDT due to that undermind efforts to keel malaria in check vis mosquito control. Then there is his role in the journery RFK Jr took. He tried to lie to him about where the mercury goes. When RFK Jr went to follow up that it wasn't in the blood because it was in the brain...he ghosted him. Offit's not a good egg. The fact he's the best voice for the mainstream position on vaccines is not good.
Dr Josef Mengele - Angel of Death was also ¨very nice...¨
¨Josef Mengele lacks a terrible backstory to which one can point a finger when attempting to explain his vile acts. Born on March 16, 1911, in Günzburg, Germany, Mengele was a popular and rich child whose father ran a successful business at a time when the national economy was cratering.
Everybody at school seemed to like Mengele and he earned excellent grades. Upon graduating, it seemed natural that he would go on to university and that he would succeed at anything he put his mind to.From 1943 to 1945, Mengele built up a reputation as the "Angel of Death" at Auschwitz. Like other Nazi doctors on-site, Mengele was tasked with choosing which prisoners would be murdered immediately and which ones would be kept alive for grueling labor — or for human experiments.¨ Read More https://allthatsinteresting.com/josef-mengele
Thank you. Nor should we forget that he wasn't alone in his medical inhumanity. Nor should we forget that Auschwitz concentration camp itself was built by I.G. Farben, the Big Pharma of Germany, along with Bayer, now the proud owners of Monsanto. Or that the Rockefeller family's ugly and evil hand was also involved in I.G. Farben, Big Pharma and the creation of what has become of western medicine as a result of their greed.
Dr. Margulis, I empathize with your perplexity in getting barraged and vilified for honest scholarship and science writing.
That said, I must say that your nuanced view of vaccines has parts I agree with (it is utterly and totally the parents' choice about whether their child is vaccinated and with what vaccines, when.
But I diverge and diverge strongly from you on the idea that any vaccine has a place in any health program.
However, that would never lead me to vilify you, only to disagree with you.
One thing we can both agree on, however, is the that UN's subsidiary organization, the WHO has a horrifying mandatory Immunization Agenda schedule for world wide, mandated vaccination by 2030 of - this is not typo coming up, Dr. Margulis - "500 novel vaccines" along with all of the vaccines that currently exist.
These are mandated vaccines, violating our shared commitment to the right of Informed Consent and to parental rights.
The solution is not to negotiate a smaller number of mandated vaccines.
The solution is, in my estimation, to get out of the UN, which is the author of a huge number of wildly destructive programs.
There is currently legislation in front of the UN Congress called Disengaging Entirely From the UN Debacle Act of 2023. People can go to PreventGenocide2030.org and support that Act there by taking a simple and effective electronic action to communicate with your Congressional Members.
When finished, please share the link to help motivate others.
I am sure that the idea of many more than 500 mandated vaccines horrifies you as much as it does me.
"But I diverge and diverge strongly from you on the idea that any vaccine has a place in any health program." You may very well be right, Dr. Laibow. I am certainly open to changing my mind. My biggest issue is CHOICE. That we must be able to decide what is right for ourselves and our families and that our decisions about a so-called preventative medicine should not dictate whether our children are allowed to go to school or the YMCA or participate in society. I have been a champion for medical freedom for 25 years. Forced vaccination has no place in a free and fair society.
This is such an important issue, much larger than vaccine choice, really. It is fundamentally the issue of who owns your body. If someone else does and can decide what does or does not, may or may not, must or must not, happen to your body (or your child's) then the critically important right of Informed Consent does not, in fact, exist and the person or organization making those decisions, owns you. That means that you are, regardless of the verbiage surrounding it, a slave.
All rights descend from property rights and the fundamental and first property is one's own body.
That being said, the UN is in the process of removing every type of right from us, including, but not limited to, that fundamental right of Informed Consent/Bodily Autonomy
You can help pass the Disengaging Entirely From the UN Debacle Act of 2023 here: https://PreventGenocide2030.org. Once you have taken the Action, please encourage everyone you can reach via social media or otherwise to do the same.
Thank you, and well put. I agree with your viewpoint; vaccines don't enhance health in any way. I am all for parental choice, but feel there needs to be a lot more information openly disseminated about all the risks, not to mention the ineffectiveness, of vaccines so that parents can truly make choices, not "trust the experts." Now I'm off to sign that petition.
Along with Paul Thomas MD's most recent study, for which he lost his medical practise, showing the vaccine-free are healthiest, those 2 books seem to be the current "Health Freedom Movement" "standard of care". Maybe someone with a large "Health Freedom" viewership would like to conduct a "poll". The fact that no childhood vaccine has been properly tested against an inert placebo prior to licensure adds another nail in the vaccine coffin. In addition, Aaron Siri and his first 2 hour testimony to the Arizona state legislature pinned to my X account @jeantobin, seems to be a good benchmark regarding which vaccines are "friendly". For good reason anything that speaks to children's maximum health and well-being stirs up significant emotions. The general public who have not read those 2 books are certainly "the moveable middle" and as they are our brother's and sisters, also inspire passion.
Jennifer, what do you think of the work of doctors and scientists who claim that viruses don't exist? I just finished reading "The Final Pandemic" by Sam and Mark Bailey and "Can You Catch A Cold by Daniel Roytas. The Baileys have taken a deep dive into the literature and conclude that virology does not adhere to the scientific method , viruses have not been isolated and virology is pseudo-science. You can check out their work here. https://drsambailey.com/ Is virology Turtles All The Way Down?
What's really sad is that we can't trust anyone. I want to trust the studies and the doctors and even the opportunities vaccines may be giving us, BUT unfortunatly what happened before my eyes (varicella vaccine, later that night they spiked fevers of 103 and 104, and speech disappeared for an entire week to be repleced with an ear piercing scream. Speech came back but child dx with autism. There was no conversation, no discussion, no way to even discuss the connnections. The denial was insane. It couldn't possibley be they said, my child must have caught the flu in the office or a virus or it was all coincidental, and it was impossible to think varicella may have caused this. Which of course, we could at least have had an honest and open conversation about it. Every doctor since has been so closed off to discussion, I MUST turn to my own research and the internet. Then we learn of whistleblowers and more making everything more confusing. It feels safest to do nothing rather than trust in something, or someone, that has everything to gain and nothing to lose.
"There was no conversation, no discussion, no way to even discuss the connnections. The denial was insane." I'm so sorry this happened. If we had a dollar for every family treated this way by the mainstream, we would all be millionaires. Unfortunately. The book, "An Unfortunate Coincidence," which is what the doctors told a mom who saw her child slip further into cognitive decline after every round of vaccines, is an excellent read.
Hi Jennifer, thanks for replying. FWIW I genuinly appreciate a balanced approach. I am firmly in the "not always, not everyone, not everthing" camp. I want to trust there are solutions to disease. I want to trust that the medical profession genuinly wants to save lives.
I have read all the books, watched the webinars, attended the conferences, but the reality is it is too late for us. The vaccines have all already been administered. We are now at year 20 and just this morning as my child was screaming and pulling out their hair I wondered for the millionth time if time travel is possible. I write that in jest - sort of. But I know our experience is universal (that's why we are all here right?). I can't help but wonder - if only those practioners who are aware, were to be left alone to practice and parents like myself were allowed open discussion, I believe ironically vaccine uptake would increase but at a slower and more intentional pace. Sadly, it has gotten harder and harder to find this reciprical conversation anywhere. That makes everyone nervous. It almost feels like you have to have a secret hand signal to proceed, I have had doctors literally scream me out of the office, standing up, screaming at me in front of my child for questioning anything. He was so sick, so so sick it seems prudent to have conversations but unless I have that MD by my name I don't apparently have the intellect to discuss.... I enjoy your writing, I enjoy a balance. We need more people willing to have the if, then, and, but conversations. Thank you.
excuse my spelling - this is better - What's really sad is that we can't trust anyone. I want to trust the studies and the doctors and even the opportunities vaccines may be giving us, BUT unfortunately what happened before my eyes (varicella vaccine, later that night they spiked fevers of 103 and 104, and speech disappeared for an entire week to be replaced with an ear piercing scream. Speech came back but child dx with autism. There was no conversation, no discussion, no way to even discuss the connections. The denial was insane. It couldn't possibly be they said, my child must have caught the flu in the office or a virus or it was all coincidental, and it was impossible to think varicella may have caused this. Which of course, we could at least have had an honest and open conversation about it. Every doctor since has been so closed off to discussion, I MUST turn to my own research and the internet. Then we learn of whistleblowers and more making everything more confusing. It feels safest to do nothing rather than trust in something, or someone, that has everything to gain and nothing to lose.
I think it's a very difficult question at the moment, made even more difficult by the lack of good research into alternatives (due to vaccines being a cash cow). I could take a stance similar to yours, only I would also like to settle the following points:
- Remove all traces of mercury and stop using aluminium salts as an adjuvant. No Polysorbate 80 either.
- Re-test to see if simply removing these elements makes the vaccines safer. If so, perhaps a few could be used intelligently in the manner you suggest, with mindfulness that there is a limit to how many you should expose yourself to in a period or lifetime.
- If the vaccines are not significantly safer after these changes, it could be that the act of vaccination itself is simply dangerous, due to the adjuvant disassociating from the antigen and bonding with tissues, thus creating an "immune association" between the adjuvant and tissues (autoimmunity).
- Better establish what the risk factors are for vaccine injury. MTHFR? KPU? High toxic load?
- Don't make them compulsory.
- Establish whether part of this "cash cow" for the pharmaceutical industry currently includes vaccine injury - ie. the profit doesn't even come from the vaccines themselves, it comes from the immune dysregulation and lifetime of inflammation and hormone disruption, as well as from generations being disabled in a stepwise manner which allows wealth to be shifted upwards.
I would expect that without aluminum they would be safer but wouldn't be as effective, relatively speaking; you need them to trick the body into reacting as if the fake infection is a real infection.
This is from Jon Rappoport's post of October 30, 2023: "There is no way to prove the enhanced antibody response is against the virus and not against the adjuvant. There is no way to differentiate antibodies against the virus from antibodies against the adjuvant. So the experts’ story falls flat. It’s a failure. Moreover, who in his right mind would risk injecting an aluminum adjuvant into the body? Where is the proof that this is a safe practice? Obviously, nowhere. Injecting aluminum, or some other metal, or different type of toxin will definitely produce an “enhanced” antibody response. The body is calling for all hands on deck to neutralize a clear and present danger. This has nothing to do with fortifying the immune system against a virus. It has everything to do with combatting vaccine damage."
I'm not totally certain what he means. People get vaccinated because they want high antibody titres which are testable... the question is do antibodies necessarily result in immunity? We saw with covid that antibodies can be a) in the wrong compartment of the body b) paradoxically harmful c) attained at the expense of innate immunity.
I suspect you are right, Eleftherios. The live viral vaccines have been shown to be much more effective than the aluminum-containing shots. But until we have a better option (gold nanoparticles is one that has been floated), it is likely best to avoid all aluminum containing vaccines. Not sure if you're away that they've been testing gold to see if it might be a safer adjuvant: https://jennifermargulis.substack.com/p/gold-nanoparticles-may-make-vaccines?
There are other adjuvants in use. The protein unit covid ones used saponin. Stimulating the immune system could always create this problem, but there also could be safer things than alum. I think this is one of the problems that they might be trying to overcome with mRNA, but the new platform ended up being 100x worse, because the antigen is now expressed directly by the cell which invites an immune response to itself.
I wholeheartedly respect your work and your opinion so this piece has given me some new thoughts on my total anti-vax conclusions, come to over the course of 30+ years of interest in the topic. I am sorry you have been raked over the coals from both sides - another example of how we can speak before we think - especially when someone gives us something to think about that can be so beneficial. One day perhaps our human nature will evolve to a more reserved approach to our babble of unchecked thoughts that spew out as words. Thank you, as always, for the work that you do - showing us facts and informaiton to better our health and saving us all of that personal research in the process because we have a trusted source to open our minds to.
This is a thoughtful and respectful comment you have posted. With all due respect, there is no "saving us all of that personal research" on a topic as important as this, (even if that was Jennifer's intent,) as so many (including myself) can attest, so I'd urge you to continue your research. Meanwhile, entertain the idea of questioning everything. That is my two cents, anyway.
It can be hard to do a lot of personal research, Jinc. But I agree that there is no not doing it, as we are all unique, we all have different genetics, and different disease exposure profiles. (<== an awkward way to put it but I'm not sure how else to say different chances of being exposed to diseases depending on where we live, where we travel, where we eat, etc.) It's always good to research! And thank you, also, for your thoughtful comment and gentle way of adding a different point of view. If we could all communicate with kindness, like you and Judy both have, the world would be a better place.
One of my cats just died from distemper after having recently ( a few months ago) been vaccinated for distemper. I hope that veterinary science.would focus on finding a cure, rather than relying on an imperfect.vaccine.
I'm so sorry to hear this, Judith. Is there a way to report the death as a vaccine reaction? (That is, a VAERS for non-humans?) I appears that more veterinarians are aware of over-vaccination than medical doctors...
Thank you for your sympathy. It never occurred to me that her illness could have been a vaccine reaction because the disease struck down all but two of a bunch of 3 and 4 month old kittens. (My deceased cat got her shot when she was spayed and was not one of the mothers.) Also an unvaccinated adult male is sick. I tried ivermectin but to no avail.
I believe we have traded childhood illnesses for adult chronic disease.
If vaccine adjuvants “help” the body to mount a defense against a particular disease, how does the body know to ONLY mount a defense against say, chicken pox and NOT mount a defense to formaldehyde, alcohol, aluminum, polysorbates, animal dander (from containing monkey virus, porcine (porky
pig)/ canine/bovine/equine aspects, and most importantly how does it know MOT to mount a defense against… itself? Most of the vaccines contain some form of the aborted fetuses of BOTH sexes due to the fact that aspects of vaccines are
grown on these aborted babies. Might that be a reason for the autoimmune explosion? Might the body simply be being told to mount a defense against BODIES on account of the bodies representing???
This is from Jon Rappoport's post of October 30, 2023: "There is no way to prove the enhanced antibody response is against the virus and not against the adjuvant. There is no way to differentiate antibodies against the virus from antibodies against the adjuvant. So the experts’ story falls flat. It’s a failure. Moreover, who in his right mind would risk injecting an aluminum adjuvant into the body? Where is the proof that this is a safe practice? Obviously, nowhere. Injecting aluminum, or some other metal, or different type of toxin will definitely produce an “enhanced” antibody response. The body is calling for all hands on deck to neutralize a clear and present danger. This has nothing to do with fortifying the immune system against a virus. It has everything to do with combatting vaccine damage."
And WHY ignore all the natural filters our Creator places within us? Skin, eyelashes, nose hairs, stomach acid, liver, gall bladder— loads of things to help keep toxins OUT and we just blow right through them via a needle, at 5 minutes old, no less! Welcome to the world, little 8 pounder! Here’s some vitamin K, HepB, alcohol, formaldehyde, monkey kidney, DNA fragments of BOTH sexes of aborted babies, aluminum, anti freeze and some polysorbates to break it all through the blood brain barrier. Good luck!
This is tough to read, chiefly due to your use of the flippant term "anti-vaxxer". This is used to demean and insult, as it presumes a collective of mindless morons. Remember that a large subset of the people you refer to, perhaps even the majority who question the use of these consumer products, are well educated and/or intelligent. They are your peers. Of course some are not, but to start your conversation by insulting millions of decent, intelligent people, just because a couple of dodgy strangers insulted you, is not the way to win people over.
I apologize if this article upset you, JustMe. I have been insulted so many times over by pro-vaccine fanatics (perhaps there is a better way to say this?) and I love that a lot of people have embraced the term "anti-vaxxer" as positive and one to celebrate. It is used as a demeaning term by the mainstream. Anti-vaxxer is a misspelling of "vaccine safety advocate" in my book.
I too was disappointed to see the term “anti-vaxxer” in the title of this post. It demeans and dismisses all of us who have spent years researching the side effects of vaccines, the (toxic) excipients in them, and the fact that none of them has been tested for Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, or Impairment of Fertility.
I am someone, too, who has spent years researching vaccine safety and vaccine side effects, as well as efficacy and necessity. I agree that the term is dismissive. Wasn't intending to insult anyone (not you or JustMe or myself, for that matter.) Can you suggest a better title? I will see if there is a way to change it.
I was blessed to see and hear Dr. Paul Thomas speak in person back in May (with the CHD Vax-Unvax bud), and he said he no longer recommends any vaccine.
Yes, and it was very clear from his speech and a "reenactment" he did with his coaching practice partner Dee Dee Hoover, that he came to just that conclusion.
My stance is that the vaccine concept is quite clever. But without long term RCT’s how do you judge? It seems possible that certain vaccines could confer a long term benefit. Although based on what I know about the industry that almost seems like it would be a mistake rather than an intended consequence. It’s also quite obvious that the schedule in the US is insanely bloated and a clear net negative. The answer is for real and unbiased science to be done. Maybe somehow we can get there someday after the madness of the Scamdemic. But I’m not very optimistic. So many of our citizens are willfully ignorant.
If you are getting heat from both sides, you are probably where you should be.
One of the comments you have received and included here bothered me more than the others, all bothered me though. The mention of your religion. Back before Quora throttled me I provided studies on masks and other nonsensical measures being forced upon us. One was immediately discounted because the MD behind the study is Christian. They didn’t even read the study based solely upon the religion of the researcher. We are in a dark time when information is allowed into discussion based upon the religion of those who provide it.
Yes, the anti-Semitic part of that comment was a little extra, as my kids would say. Not sure I'm using that slang right (I'm probably not). But "Andy" could have made his point without all the ad hominem attacks...
Yes…the phrase “only an idiot would say…” should really be avoided - especially in this vaccine space. Things are moving fast…studies are coming out, ugly motives are being revealed, ingredients are being questioned, ‘truisms’ are being revisited…everyone should take a breath and a more thoughtful, nuanced tone. And yes - polio shots - are on that questionable list. We have to allow real investigations wherever it ends up taking us. Thank you for this essay, gave me pause.
I really appreciated having your book when I was navigating making medical choices for my child. Thank you for being willing to say the things that (clearly) will always make someone mad!
It's terrible that so many people on social media are so mean-spirited and unkind. Hopefully you're not getting those type of responses on substack, where generally the responses are respectful even when someone strongly disagrees. That's one of the reasons I love substack. Keep up the good work, Jennifer.
Thank you for being you. Everyone now seems to live in a binary - you're either for or against whatever the conflict of the hour is. Being able to be pro-human allows us to consider carefully what is being offered to us and figure out if it is what we and our child need at a particular time...
Offit may be a "very nice" person to you, and he may even have some lovely things to say about the importance of letting a child experience a fever without suppressing it...and he may even have admitted that the Covid boosters should not be used because they are not effective...BUT (!) as soon as he realized that Big Media was ignoring him once he began to no longer support the Big Pharma narrative on the vaccine, Offit then changed his public opinions that began claiming that the Covid vaccines "prevented" millions of deaths (BULL-SHIT...or worse, it is more accurate to identify Offit's position as "elephant shit"...which is much bigger than bull-shit!).
Just sayin'...
The devil can be charming.
This is true too. But I don't think Offit is a devil. Granted, I could be completely wrong and I'm basing my rather stubborn opinion about him on one long interview plus some very nice things the photographer said about him (when she brought her original organic human to the photoshoot) and I know he's reactive and has said journalists who cover vaccine issues from both sides belong in "journalism jail." But. But. But. I think he truly cares about the health of babies and small children, as do most pediatricians. I also think he's wrong and should not be vilifying anti-vaxxers. So many people on the other side believe I am a baby killer. One conversation with me would, I hope, convince them otherwise...
Offit, like all the vaxxer physicians won’t debate the evidence, and won’t respond to email challenges per me (who is a nobody’) and Steve Kirsch, who though a non-physician brings a big pot of money to the debate.
IIRC, he is a Fauci dependent, i.e., got his academic start on the basis of Fauci controlled grants, so a tool of the devil.
Still can be a person who loves their children and wife and doesn’t beat them & pays their bills, etc.
My view is that the parameters of your framing of this are too limited not only considering what has happened in the last 4 years, but also considering realities like the billion dollar peer review process, that health care has been hijacked weaponized,and inverted to achieve exactly the opposite of it's supposed intent, and if that is ignored in context, can one possibly come to any viable 'nuanced' overview?
If you are reading the overt signage Jennifer, according to the script writers of our collective futures, apparently those 'enlightened' beings that truly care about the 'greater good' of the future and it's children - the communitarians - , the world as we know it must be depopulated. We are the sacrifice they are prepared to make. The fact that they are using / have used aluminium and mercury 'adjuvants' / ingredients that are known to be a let's call it a neutralization method for those wishing to induce submissive and order following trans humans that when the bell tolls like the Eloi from H.G. Wells book - The Time Machine, those that have handed over there agency to the experts and authorities will be dutifully lining up, making the depopulation agenda easier on the military Industrial perception management complex.
If you would consider other voices like Dr Ayoub, Dr Mike Yeadon, Sasha Latypova, Katherine Watt, or even listen to those that have been speaking of the urgency of depopulation- according to those happy to commit democidal murder / depopulation.
Their is nothing that cannot be found as the cat's out of the bag - that the same 'for your safety' moniker the Nazis used, is being used in exactly the same context, therefore ensuring It is too hard to trust people who cannot see that or refuse to, or see it and are complicit players assisting in the stage show being rammed down our throats as reality.
I realise the intent of the divide and conquer, the hegalian dialectic polarization method, and that those that have been a part of forcing their will on others have never been the good guys in history.
Happy to send you examples of the countless credible voices seeing the depopulation agenda for what it is.
I'm going to email this to you as well, as I am happy to engage in any dialogue on this topic. The messaging is prolific in movies, TV, from groomed groomers specifically for the monetarily wealthy and influential e.g - Noah Yuval Horari - his job being to steer the cashed up adepts that are just as susceptible to social engineers as those with far lesser means.
Yes! Interested in reading deeper down this rabbit hole. Great content Jen.
I tried using Offit's books as a tether to the mainstream position and he failed miserably. I had to tap out of the false prophets of autism book of his. He was chiding the scientist who stood tall on trying to get thimerosol out of vaccines because of the 'panic' this would cause. He doesn't explicitly say it but is implied argument is Amerians are too litigious for informed consent...his goto example...lawsuits over silicon breast implants. Thats when had to tap out on listening to him about anything. Later I was reading Rachel Carson and sure enough stumbled upon a smear piece on her concerns over DDT due to that undermind efforts to keel malaria in check vis mosquito control. Then there is his role in the journery RFK Jr took. He tried to lie to him about where the mercury goes. When RFK Jr went to follow up that it wasn't in the blood because it was in the brain...he ghosted him. Offit's not a good egg. The fact he's the best voice for the mainstream position on vaccines is not good.
Yes, good point and I appreciate you saying it.
Dr Josef Mengele - Angel of Death was also ¨very nice...¨
¨Josef Mengele lacks a terrible backstory to which one can point a finger when attempting to explain his vile acts. Born on March 16, 1911, in Günzburg, Germany, Mengele was a popular and rich child whose father ran a successful business at a time when the national economy was cratering.
Everybody at school seemed to like Mengele and he earned excellent grades. Upon graduating, it seemed natural that he would go on to university and that he would succeed at anything he put his mind to.From 1943 to 1945, Mengele built up a reputation as the "Angel of Death" at Auschwitz. Like other Nazi doctors on-site, Mengele was tasked with choosing which prisoners would be murdered immediately and which ones would be kept alive for grueling labor — or for human experiments.¨ Read More https://allthatsinteresting.com/josef-mengele
https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/josef-mengele-angel-of-death.html
Thank you. Nor should we forget that he wasn't alone in his medical inhumanity. Nor should we forget that Auschwitz concentration camp itself was built by I.G. Farben, the Big Pharma of Germany, along with Bayer, now the proud owners of Monsanto. Or that the Rockefeller family's ugly and evil hand was also involved in I.G. Farben, Big Pharma and the creation of what has become of western medicine as a result of their greed.
Are you comparing Paul Offit to Josef Mengele?
Dr. Margulis, I empathize with your perplexity in getting barraged and vilified for honest scholarship and science writing.
That said, I must say that your nuanced view of vaccines has parts I agree with (it is utterly and totally the parents' choice about whether their child is vaccinated and with what vaccines, when.
But I diverge and diverge strongly from you on the idea that any vaccine has a place in any health program.
However, that would never lead me to vilify you, only to disagree with you.
One thing we can both agree on, however, is the that UN's subsidiary organization, the WHO has a horrifying mandatory Immunization Agenda schedule for world wide, mandated vaccination by 2030 of - this is not typo coming up, Dr. Margulis - "500 novel vaccines" along with all of the vaccines that currently exist.
These are mandated vaccines, violating our shared commitment to the right of Informed Consent and to parental rights.
The solution is not to negotiate a smaller number of mandated vaccines.
The solution is, in my estimation, to get out of the UN, which is the author of a huge number of wildly destructive programs.
There is currently legislation in front of the UN Congress called Disengaging Entirely From the UN Debacle Act of 2023. People can go to PreventGenocide2030.org and support that Act there by taking a simple and effective electronic action to communicate with your Congressional Members.
When finished, please share the link to help motivate others.
I am sure that the idea of many more than 500 mandated vaccines horrifies you as much as it does me.
And 500 of those vaccines are novel.
This is totally unacceptable.
"But I diverge and diverge strongly from you on the idea that any vaccine has a place in any health program." You may very well be right, Dr. Laibow. I am certainly open to changing my mind. My biggest issue is CHOICE. That we must be able to decide what is right for ourselves and our families and that our decisions about a so-called preventative medicine should not dictate whether our children are allowed to go to school or the YMCA or participate in society. I have been a champion for medical freedom for 25 years. Forced vaccination has no place in a free and fair society.
This is such an important issue, much larger than vaccine choice, really. It is fundamentally the issue of who owns your body. If someone else does and can decide what does or does not, may or may not, must or must not, happen to your body (or your child's) then the critically important right of Informed Consent does not, in fact, exist and the person or organization making those decisions, owns you. That means that you are, regardless of the verbiage surrounding it, a slave.
All rights descend from property rights and the fundamental and first property is one's own body.
That being said, the UN is in the process of removing every type of right from us, including, but not limited to, that fundamental right of Informed Consent/Bodily Autonomy
You can help pass the Disengaging Entirely From the UN Debacle Act of 2023 here: https://PreventGenocide2030.org. Once you have taken the Action, please encourage everyone you can reach via social media or otherwise to do the same.
Thank you, and well put. I agree with your viewpoint; vaccines don't enhance health in any way. I am all for parental choice, but feel there needs to be a lot more information openly disseminated about all the risks, not to mention the ineffectiveness, of vaccines so that parents can truly make choices, not "trust the experts." Now I'm off to sign that petition.
Well-stated.
Hi Jennifer, What is your opinion of "Turtles All the Way Down"?
I thought it was a fascinating and excellent book. A must-read. Along with "Dissolving Illusions" by Dr. Suzanne Humphries...
Along with Paul Thomas MD's most recent study, for which he lost his medical practise, showing the vaccine-free are healthiest, those 2 books seem to be the current "Health Freedom Movement" "standard of care". Maybe someone with a large "Health Freedom" viewership would like to conduct a "poll". The fact that no childhood vaccine has been properly tested against an inert placebo prior to licensure adds another nail in the vaccine coffin. In addition, Aaron Siri and his first 2 hour testimony to the Arizona state legislature pinned to my X account @jeantobin, seems to be a good benchmark regarding which vaccines are "friendly". For good reason anything that speaks to children's maximum health and well-being stirs up significant emotions. The general public who have not read those 2 books are certainly "the moveable middle" and as they are our brother's and sisters, also inspire passion.
Jennifer, what do you think of the work of doctors and scientists who claim that viruses don't exist? I just finished reading "The Final Pandemic" by Sam and Mark Bailey and "Can You Catch A Cold by Daniel Roytas. The Baileys have taken a deep dive into the literature and conclude that virology does not adhere to the scientific method , viruses have not been isolated and virology is pseudo-science. You can check out their work here. https://drsambailey.com/ Is virology Turtles All The Way Down?
What's really sad is that we can't trust anyone. I want to trust the studies and the doctors and even the opportunities vaccines may be giving us, BUT unfortunatly what happened before my eyes (varicella vaccine, later that night they spiked fevers of 103 and 104, and speech disappeared for an entire week to be repleced with an ear piercing scream. Speech came back but child dx with autism. There was no conversation, no discussion, no way to even discuss the connnections. The denial was insane. It couldn't possibley be they said, my child must have caught the flu in the office or a virus or it was all coincidental, and it was impossible to think varicella may have caused this. Which of course, we could at least have had an honest and open conversation about it. Every doctor since has been so closed off to discussion, I MUST turn to my own research and the internet. Then we learn of whistleblowers and more making everything more confusing. It feels safest to do nothing rather than trust in something, or someone, that has everything to gain and nothing to lose.
"There was no conversation, no discussion, no way to even discuss the connnections. The denial was insane." I'm so sorry this happened. If we had a dollar for every family treated this way by the mainstream, we would all be millionaires. Unfortunately. The book, "An Unfortunate Coincidence," which is what the doctors told a mom who saw her child slip further into cognitive decline after every round of vaccines, is an excellent read.
Hi Jennifer, thanks for replying. FWIW I genuinly appreciate a balanced approach. I am firmly in the "not always, not everyone, not everthing" camp. I want to trust there are solutions to disease. I want to trust that the medical profession genuinly wants to save lives.
I have read all the books, watched the webinars, attended the conferences, but the reality is it is too late for us. The vaccines have all already been administered. We are now at year 20 and just this morning as my child was screaming and pulling out their hair I wondered for the millionth time if time travel is possible. I write that in jest - sort of. But I know our experience is universal (that's why we are all here right?). I can't help but wonder - if only those practioners who are aware, were to be left alone to practice and parents like myself were allowed open discussion, I believe ironically vaccine uptake would increase but at a slower and more intentional pace. Sadly, it has gotten harder and harder to find this reciprical conversation anywhere. That makes everyone nervous. It almost feels like you have to have a secret hand signal to proceed, I have had doctors literally scream me out of the office, standing up, screaming at me in front of my child for questioning anything. He was so sick, so so sick it seems prudent to have conversations but unless I have that MD by my name I don't apparently have the intellect to discuss.... I enjoy your writing, I enjoy a balance. We need more people willing to have the if, then, and, but conversations. Thank you.
excuse my spelling - this is better - What's really sad is that we can't trust anyone. I want to trust the studies and the doctors and even the opportunities vaccines may be giving us, BUT unfortunately what happened before my eyes (varicella vaccine, later that night they spiked fevers of 103 and 104, and speech disappeared for an entire week to be replaced with an ear piercing scream. Speech came back but child dx with autism. There was no conversation, no discussion, no way to even discuss the connections. The denial was insane. It couldn't possibly be they said, my child must have caught the flu in the office or a virus or it was all coincidental, and it was impossible to think varicella may have caused this. Which of course, we could at least have had an honest and open conversation about it. Every doctor since has been so closed off to discussion, I MUST turn to my own research and the internet. Then we learn of whistleblowers and more making everything more confusing. It feels safest to do nothing rather than trust in something, or someone, that has everything to gain and nothing to lose.
I think it's a very difficult question at the moment, made even more difficult by the lack of good research into alternatives (due to vaccines being a cash cow). I could take a stance similar to yours, only I would also like to settle the following points:
- Remove all traces of mercury and stop using aluminium salts as an adjuvant. No Polysorbate 80 either.
- Re-test to see if simply removing these elements makes the vaccines safer. If so, perhaps a few could be used intelligently in the manner you suggest, with mindfulness that there is a limit to how many you should expose yourself to in a period or lifetime.
- If the vaccines are not significantly safer after these changes, it could be that the act of vaccination itself is simply dangerous, due to the adjuvant disassociating from the antigen and bonding with tissues, thus creating an "immune association" between the adjuvant and tissues (autoimmunity).
- Better establish what the risk factors are for vaccine injury. MTHFR? KPU? High toxic load?
- Don't make them compulsory.
- Establish whether part of this "cash cow" for the pharmaceutical industry currently includes vaccine injury - ie. the profit doesn't even come from the vaccines themselves, it comes from the immune dysregulation and lifetime of inflammation and hormone disruption, as well as from generations being disabled in a stepwise manner which allows wealth to be shifted upwards.
I would expect that without aluminum they would be safer but wouldn't be as effective, relatively speaking; you need them to trick the body into reacting as if the fake infection is a real infection.
This is from Jon Rappoport's post of October 30, 2023: "There is no way to prove the enhanced antibody response is against the virus and not against the adjuvant. There is no way to differentiate antibodies against the virus from antibodies against the adjuvant. So the experts’ story falls flat. It’s a failure. Moreover, who in his right mind would risk injecting an aluminum adjuvant into the body? Where is the proof that this is a safe practice? Obviously, nowhere. Injecting aluminum, or some other metal, or different type of toxin will definitely produce an “enhanced” antibody response. The body is calling for all hands on deck to neutralize a clear and present danger. This has nothing to do with fortifying the immune system against a virus. It has everything to do with combatting vaccine damage."
I'm not totally certain what he means. People get vaccinated because they want high antibody titres which are testable... the question is do antibodies necessarily result in immunity? We saw with covid that antibodies can be a) in the wrong compartment of the body b) paradoxically harmful c) attained at the expense of innate immunity.
Dr. Christopher Exley has been researching and writing about the effects of aluminum for years. His Substack articles are excellent:
https://substack.com/@drchristopherexley
I suspect you are right, Eleftherios. The live viral vaccines have been shown to be much more effective than the aluminum-containing shots. But until we have a better option (gold nanoparticles is one that has been floated), it is likely best to avoid all aluminum containing vaccines. Not sure if you're away that they've been testing gold to see if it might be a safer adjuvant: https://jennifermargulis.substack.com/p/gold-nanoparticles-may-make-vaccines?
Vaccines might be fine if you take Pharma and Doctors out of the equation.
And the FDA, CDC, HHS, NIH, WHO, Court of Special Masters, Bill & Melinda Gates, GAVI, Every Child By Two...and whomever I have left out.
There are other adjuvants in use. The protein unit covid ones used saponin. Stimulating the immune system could always create this problem, but there also could be safer things than alum. I think this is one of the problems that they might be trying to overcome with mRNA, but the new platform ended up being 100x worse, because the antigen is now expressed directly by the cell which invites an immune response to itself.
Just want to weigh in on the mRNA Covid vaccines. While thanking Jennifer for so truly pointing out not all vaccines are made equal.
A cell making a virus copy (old school virus) is a lot different than a cell making a virus protein (new school immunology).
People don’t understand a new brand of science has been born, where a situation has been created that the human body has never encountered.
Never before have our cells been breached to synthesize man-made replicas of *pieces* of virus.
It is totally wreckless in terms of how many unknowns have been left unchecked.
Not going to happen, too much risk of an inconvenient result.
I wholeheartedly respect your work and your opinion so this piece has given me some new thoughts on my total anti-vax conclusions, come to over the course of 30+ years of interest in the topic. I am sorry you have been raked over the coals from both sides - another example of how we can speak before we think - especially when someone gives us something to think about that can be so beneficial. One day perhaps our human nature will evolve to a more reserved approach to our babble of unchecked thoughts that spew out as words. Thank you, as always, for the work that you do - showing us facts and informaiton to better our health and saving us all of that personal research in the process because we have a trusted source to open our minds to.
This is a thoughtful and respectful comment you have posted. With all due respect, there is no "saving us all of that personal research" on a topic as important as this, (even if that was Jennifer's intent,) as so many (including myself) can attest, so I'd urge you to continue your research. Meanwhile, entertain the idea of questioning everything. That is my two cents, anyway.
It can be hard to do a lot of personal research, Jinc. But I agree that there is no not doing it, as we are all unique, we all have different genetics, and different disease exposure profiles. (<== an awkward way to put it but I'm not sure how else to say different chances of being exposed to diseases depending on where we live, where we travel, where we eat, etc.) It's always good to research! And thank you, also, for your thoughtful comment and gentle way of adding a different point of view. If we could all communicate with kindness, like you and Judy both have, the world would be a better place.
Of course you are right - but it does lighten the load. At least for me. Thanks for your comment.
Thank you Judy.
One of my cats just died from distemper after having recently ( a few months ago) been vaccinated for distemper. I hope that veterinary science.would focus on finding a cure, rather than relying on an imperfect.vaccine.
I'm so sorry to hear this, Judith. Is there a way to report the death as a vaccine reaction? (That is, a VAERS for non-humans?) I appears that more veterinarians are aware of over-vaccination than medical doctors...
Thank you for your sympathy. It never occurred to me that her illness could have been a vaccine reaction because the disease struck down all but two of a bunch of 3 and 4 month old kittens. (My deceased cat got her shot when she was spayed and was not one of the mothers.) Also an unvaccinated adult male is sick. I tried ivermectin but to no avail.
I believe we have traded childhood illnesses for adult chronic disease.
If vaccine adjuvants “help” the body to mount a defense against a particular disease, how does the body know to ONLY mount a defense against say, chicken pox and NOT mount a defense to formaldehyde, alcohol, aluminum, polysorbates, animal dander (from containing monkey virus, porcine (porky
pig)/ canine/bovine/equine aspects, and most importantly how does it know MOT to mount a defense against… itself? Most of the vaccines contain some form of the aborted fetuses of BOTH sexes due to the fact that aspects of vaccines are
grown on these aborted babies. Might that be a reason for the autoimmune explosion? Might the body simply be being told to mount a defense against BODIES on account of the bodies representing???
This is from Jon Rappoport's post of October 30, 2023: "There is no way to prove the enhanced antibody response is against the virus and not against the adjuvant. There is no way to differentiate antibodies against the virus from antibodies against the adjuvant. So the experts’ story falls flat. It’s a failure. Moreover, who in his right mind would risk injecting an aluminum adjuvant into the body? Where is the proof that this is a safe practice? Obviously, nowhere. Injecting aluminum, or some other metal, or different type of toxin will definitely produce an “enhanced” antibody response. The body is calling for all hands on deck to neutralize a clear and present danger. This has nothing to do with fortifying the immune system against a virus. It has everything to do with combatting vaccine damage."
Speaks volumes.
And WHY ignore all the natural filters our Creator places within us? Skin, eyelashes, nose hairs, stomach acid, liver, gall bladder— loads of things to help keep toxins OUT and we just blow right through them via a needle, at 5 minutes old, no less! Welcome to the world, little 8 pounder! Here’s some vitamin K, HepB, alcohol, formaldehyde, monkey kidney, DNA fragments of BOTH sexes of aborted babies, aluminum, anti freeze and some polysorbates to break it all through the blood brain barrier. Good luck!
WELL said!!
This is tough to read, chiefly due to your use of the flippant term "anti-vaxxer". This is used to demean and insult, as it presumes a collective of mindless morons. Remember that a large subset of the people you refer to, perhaps even the majority who question the use of these consumer products, are well educated and/or intelligent. They are your peers. Of course some are not, but to start your conversation by insulting millions of decent, intelligent people, just because a couple of dodgy strangers insulted you, is not the way to win people over.
I apologize if this article upset you, JustMe. I have been insulted so many times over by pro-vaccine fanatics (perhaps there is a better way to say this?) and I love that a lot of people have embraced the term "anti-vaxxer" as positive and one to celebrate. It is used as a demeaning term by the mainstream. Anti-vaxxer is a misspelling of "vaccine safety advocate" in my book.
I too was disappointed to see the term “anti-vaxxer” in the title of this post. It demeans and dismisses all of us who have spent years researching the side effects of vaccines, the (toxic) excipients in them, and the fact that none of them has been tested for Carcinogenesis, Mutagenesis, or Impairment of Fertility.
I am someone, too, who has spent years researching vaccine safety and vaccine side effects, as well as efficacy and necessity. I agree that the term is dismissive. Wasn't intending to insult anyone (not you or JustMe or myself, for that matter.) Can you suggest a better title? I will see if there is a way to change it.
I was blessed to see and hear Dr. Paul Thomas speak in person back in May (with the CHD Vax-Unvax bud), and he said he no longer recommends any vaccine.
The only logical conclusion. There's a reason spacing them out is less harmful: they're all poison.
Yes, and it was very clear from his speech and a "reenactment" he did with his coaching practice partner Dee Dee Hoover, that he came to just that conclusion.
My stance is that the vaccine concept is quite clever. But without long term RCT’s how do you judge? It seems possible that certain vaccines could confer a long term benefit. Although based on what I know about the industry that almost seems like it would be a mistake rather than an intended consequence. It’s also quite obvious that the schedule in the US is insanely bloated and a clear net negative. The answer is for real and unbiased science to be done. Maybe somehow we can get there someday after the madness of the Scamdemic. But I’m not very optimistic. So many of our citizens are willfully ignorant.
If you are getting heat from both sides, you are probably where you should be.
One of the comments you have received and included here bothered me more than the others, all bothered me though. The mention of your religion. Back before Quora throttled me I provided studies on masks and other nonsensical measures being forced upon us. One was immediately discounted because the MD behind the study is Christian. They didn’t even read the study based solely upon the religion of the researcher. We are in a dark time when information is allowed into discussion based upon the religion of those who provide it.
Yes, the anti-Semitic part of that comment was a little extra, as my kids would say. Not sure I'm using that slang right (I'm probably not). But "Andy" could have made his point without all the ad hominem attacks...
Yes…the phrase “only an idiot would say…” should really be avoided - especially in this vaccine space. Things are moving fast…studies are coming out, ugly motives are being revealed, ingredients are being questioned, ‘truisms’ are being revisited…everyone should take a breath and a more thoughtful, nuanced tone. And yes - polio shots - are on that questionable list. We have to allow real investigations wherever it ends up taking us. Thank you for this essay, gave me pause.
"We have to allow real investigations wherever it ends up taking us." Exactly.
I really appreciated having your book when I was navigating making medical choices for my child. Thank you for being willing to say the things that (clearly) will always make someone mad!
Thank you, Kristen. I am glad the book was helpful to you.
It's terrible that so many people on social media are so mean-spirited and unkind. Hopefully you're not getting those type of responses on substack, where generally the responses are respectful even when someone strongly disagrees. That's one of the reasons I love substack. Keep up the good work, Jennifer.
Thank you for being you. Everyone now seems to live in a binary - you're either for or against whatever the conflict of the hour is. Being able to be pro-human allows us to consider carefully what is being offered to us and figure out if it is what we and our child need at a particular time...
❤️